Luger p08 serial numbers serial numbers#
When examining the serial numbers of an Imperial era Luger one finds the last two digits of the side plate to be of the same font size and style of the frame, receiver and barrel serial numbers.
Luger p08 serial numbers serial number#
However the 2.5mm “ 54” stamped on the side plate, which on Imperial era military Lugers is the same size and font style of the full serial number is not the same or does not appear to be the same font style of the frame, barrel and receiver serial numbers. The gun is therefore a 1928 DWM/BKIW commercially manufactured Alphabet Luger. The first thoughts would be that despite the “ r” suffix this gun was put together with Imperial parts of which some could have been used however it does not make 9754r an Imperial era military Luger, which can be immediately dismissed solely on the crown N commercial proofs and additionally as the last 2 digits of the serial number with the correct standard smaller font size height of 2mm and similar font style are stamped on the underside of the take down lever and the side plate in the hidden commercial style and additionally with the same 2mm height last two digits of the serial number added in the military style to the take down lever and the other small parts listed in the above paragraph. The font size or height of 2.5mm and style of all three locations, including the last 2 digits of the serial number located on the top of the middle and rear link are identical in font size and style, implying that that they were applied at the time of manufacture. The serialization The full four digit serial number of 9754r is on the frame, barrel underside and on the receiver left side.
It should be noted that all observed late 1920s and early 1930s newly manufactured Lugers chamber stamped with the 1920 Reichwehr property stamp have military style serial number placement. The rear axle pin is also stamped with the last two digits of the serial number. The original was probably had the military style serial number placement and an added hole to accept a sear safety pin. The 9754r sear bar is not so marked because it is a replacement. Usually the military style placement serial numbers includes stamping the last two digits on the sear bar. Also the receiver would appear to be manufactured with the military style of serial number placement with the full serial number on the receiver left side as the stop lug lacks the last two digits of the serial number.
Apparently all of the parts were not originally manufactured with the last two digits in the commercial style as the middle link with the DWM logo, while being numbered on the top rear in the military style, lacks the commercial style placement on the middle link underside. As a result the side plate and take down lever have dual serial numbers. The last two digits of the serial number were added to the face of the side plate, take down lever, the top edge of the thumb safety lever, the sear safety bar, the firing pin, the top of the middle link and breechblock extractor and the top of the hold open device. The gun serialization was later changed to the military style by adding the four digit serial number to the left forward side of the receiver. The loading tool is M over Anchor stamped. The gun is part of a rig with a 1915 dated Imperial holster which was, with the pistol, rerouted to the early Nazi navy as evidenced by the EM(4) Nazi Eagle M stamp on the holster rear. The gun subsequently went through several iterations described herein including modification to a Police Luger and early Nazi navy, but not necessarily in the sequence presented. The original serial number placement is in the hidden commercial style. The following is a description of a 1920 receiver chamber stamped DWM commercial short frame Luger, shown above, with vertical crown N proofed receiver, breechblock and 102 mm (4 inch) 9mm barrel, serial number 9754r.
Still titled Weimar and Early Nazi Lugers and Their Accessories and should be at hand. Many of the references cited herein are from an excellent book by Jan C. However, if you are open to possibilities and plausible explanations, read on. To the Luger collector who “squirms” when he hears the word “reblued” or cries “fake” when the phrase “different font style” is uttered and immediately dismisses the item “out of hand” this article is not for you. Close This Window Article created: Friday, May 27, 2005Īrticle modified: Wednesday, March 15, 2006ġ928 DWM Commercial, Police and Reichsmarine/Kreigsmarine Luger Article
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